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08 November 2009 @ 01:14 pm
The One Where Ray's Gonna Be in a Band One Day and Brad's a Computer Geek
Brad/Ray highschool AU
PG-13 for Ray's potty mouth
509 words
a/n: and now for something completely different?
where it began )
 
 
Current Mood: pensive
 
 
08 November 2009 @ 12:47 am
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Current Location: Home
Current Mood: tired
 
 
 
Made a movie! Now I just have to learn Avid and AfterEffects. But I can do that, right? I can totally do that.

Unrelatedly, my roommate has a wall-decoration-thing, sort of like a plate but it goes on a wall, idk, depicting L.

She has placed it next to the light switch.

God I love art school.
 
 
Current Mood: productive
 
 
I CANNOT PHYSICALLY BELIEVE IT.


Washington (CNN) -- The House of Representatives on Saturday night passed a sweeping health care bill bya vote of 220-215.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/07/health.care/index.html



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07 November 2009 @ 06:58 pm

here@[info]hookerfromgod
 
 
 
I AM MAKING A MOVIE TODAY oh man butterflies. I have never done this before! But I am in a film class and we have to actually produce the scripts we write, so. Admittedly I deliberately wrote something that could be filmed in an area right next to the film building with characters who could very easily be played by my friends in a situation that is pretty much just the two of them talking and standing still, and it's only three and a half pages long, so it will not take very long to film, but there is still equipment and professional things and I am very very grateful a couple guys from the class really liked my script and volunteered to help me out. Did you know directors aren't supposed to operate the cameras themselves? I did not know that. Pretty much I do not know anything. I AM A WRITER, OKAY, NOBODY TOLD ME THESE THINGS AND I FEAR TECHNOLOGY THAT IS NOT A COMPUTER OR GAME SYSTEM. I am a little bit terrified the whole class will realize this and look down on me for not being one of them. Also I will probably have to say that the cover of the manga I'm using is totally fake, really, my artistically-skilled roommate made it for me, I definitely did not take the dust jacket off an actual manga and slip it over another to make it look like a separate thing because said roommate may have been unable to complete the fake one. Definitely I did not!

This is practical experience. I must remind myself of that. Practical experience I am hoping to never have to do again after graduation. But then, the majority of my classes are like that, so it is not really something I can avoid. (I pity the Sound Design majors who still have to take Drawing I and 2-D Design--I barely scraped through those and I'm vaguely familiar with the work, I can't imagine what it's like for people who have never been interested in that sort of thing at all.)

Deep breaths, deep breaths. It will be over relatively quickly! And then I'll probably have to help out the guys with their own film, but hey, they will know by then not to expect me to be good at much besides holding the boom mike.
 
 
Current Mood: stressed
 
 
07 November 2009 @ 04:46 am
"Looking for a sweet, soothing tale to waft you toward dreamland? Look somewhere else."

It seems like there aren't as many stories based on fairy tales, legends and lore in fandom these days, but I love the darker side of fantasy-- Brothers Grimm instead of Disney. Most of these recs are from the first three seasons of the show, but they have stuck in my mind and I find myself going back to them again-- wanting to share them with my friends, pass them along, just like the storytellers of the Grimms' time did.


Pagan Gods and Fairy Tales )
 
 
 
07 November 2009 @ 02:15 am
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Like Good Old Times by [info]wildcardbitches (NC-17; Ruby/Dean)
A Hundred Years to a Steadfast Heart by [info]sothereyougo (PG; Sam/OFC)

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06 November 2009 @ 10:37 pm
posted by Neil
A quick reminder (as I was just asked) that today is the day that the bookshop Graveyard Book party reports have to be in to Harper Collins. By 9 pm PST.

http://files.harpercollins.com/Mktg/HarperChildrens/PDF/GraveyardContest_rules.pdf are the rules and info for those who lost them.

Hi Mr. Gaiman,

I was disappointed today to read you won't be part of the judging for The Graveyard Book contests. My not-wealthy, middle-of-nowhere bookstore just sent in its entry, and something we're concerned about is the fairness of judging.

For example, independent bookstores like Powell's (I'm sure you know) easily have enough money and are in a convenient enough location to ask you to come at one time or another. Against stores like that, who were able to put more money into their parties, we stand little chance.

I don't think that it's a lost cause for us; we were very creative. I'm just nervous to know you won't be judging. Can you tell me whether you think the judges will take things like size and location of bookstores into account? It would make me sleep a little easier until the results are announced.

Tusen takk,
Allison


Well, per the rules, the judging is based on:

(i) Overall creativity of the Party, as demonstrated by the invitations, signage, decorations, activities, entertainment, and refreshments.
(ii) Customer attendance and response (i.e., enthusiasm, costumes, participation).
(iii) Ability to capture and represent the spirit of The Graveyard Book.

...specifically to reward creativity, and not the ability to outspend other shops. (That was also why the party had to actually be at the bookshop, and not at another location.)

I asked my editor, Elise Howard, and she said,

Gosh, yes. Here's what we think is happening. We are looking at all the entries. On Monday, we'll send you the best 11, from which you will choose the Grand Prize Winner. The rest will get the first-prize package. So the short answer is that you ARE helping to choose.

The longer answer is that we will be very fair and will consider creativity, which includes work done with available resources, along with pure execution. (Don't you think? We haven't done anything yet; still waiting for more entries to come in.)


...which means that

a) I was wrong and will be the ultimate judge, from the shortlist. (Damn.)

and

b) everyone's on a level playing field.

Does that help reassure you?

PS -- Widgett's Graveyard Book Dessert competition winners have been announced over at http://www.needcoffee.com/2009/11/06/graveyard-book-dessert-challenge-winners/.

This one had NOTHING to do with me at all. But lor' the winning desserts look tasty...
 
 
--I kind of wish I had another Kuroshitsuji icon, but I only have the one I made in a fit of slightly disturbed amusement, so. For various reasons, I ended up reading the actual manga last night, since I'd heard the anime deviated quite a bit in terms of plot due to actually needing an ending (the manga is ongoing), and it is times like these when I really desperately wish I knew people on the internet who are interested in things I do not talk about very often, because oh man the manga gets crazy and actually really depressing but in a really awesome way--I am 100% behind giving characters extra, er, characterization, and I've come to the realization that Ciel is actually my favorite because there's just so much potential for layers upon layers of deep-set Issues and in the manga the Issues get to come out and play and it is awesome but also depressing as hell and awesome. Also Sebastian does some stuff, I guess, but the things he does do not involve much in the way of revealing previously-uncertain aspects of his character. Sebastian is kind of boring like that sometimes.

He did get to mutter "Serving tea is kind of my thing," though. Given how formally he usually speaks, that line is a thing of beauty.
 
 
Current Mood: restless
 
 
 
06 November 2009 @ 02:44 pm

12095 / 50000 words. 24% done!


YAY! The goal for... tomorrow, actually, is 11600 (and something), so I won't kill myself if this shitty shitty day proceeds on its certain path of shittiness and kills my writing for the day present.

Also, graphic goodies by [info]sarabakanashimi:



I ♥ stamps )


The lovely stamps are awards for the intermediate goals on our comm [info]nanowrimo_ita: 5,000 words in 2 days and 10,000 words in 5 days, so far. More to come! *is happy*
 
 
 
06 November 2009 @ 09:57 am
OMG, how awesome was last night's episode of Supernatural?

cut for spoilers )

 
 
Current Mood: amused
 
 
posted by Neil
Still trying to get back onto a diurnal schedule. (And, I should add, failing.)

Maddy and I started watching the new season of Sarah Jane Adventures tonight, which seems back on form after a dodgy second season.

Many amazing things waiting for me when I got home -- I still haven't gone through them all yet -- but today's mail brought me a copy of the Fantagraphics Gahan Wilson: 50 Years of Playboy Cartoons book. Three glorious volumes. I wrote the introduction to Volume 2, and thus got it for free. (If you're curious, there are many Gahan Wilson Playboy cartoons up at this website. There's a Gahan Wilson virtual museum over at http://www.gahanwilson.com

And, of course, although I posted it before, it bears repeating that you can watch the film that Steven-Charles Jaffe made of the "Dark and Silly Night" comic Gahan and I did for art spiegelman and Francoise Mouly's Little Lit at the New Yorker site, or here:



And if I'd been here for Hallowe'en I would have posted it here then. Which reminds me, The Graveyard Book party season is over. Over thirty independent bookshops had Graveyard Book parties (The ABA's Bookselling This Week reports on thirteen of the parties -- and the shops -- at http://news.bookweb.org/7149.html.) The very best one of all will get me in their shop doing a signing in December and, looking at these thirteen, I am very glad I am not any kind of a judge for the awards.

My only hope is that the shop that wins will be somewhere warm. But most of the places on the party map will be just as cold by December as my house. (Vague and only climate-based relief that HarperCollins said No to Alaska in the rules mingles with vague and selfish disappointment that they also said No to Hawaii.)

It looks like the CBS Sunday Morning profile on me is going out this Sunday, the 8th, 9:00-10:30 AM, ET. According to this website:

Correspondent Serena Altschul visits author Neil Gaiman -- the tender-hearted master of the macabre -- whose books, including Coraline and The Graveyard Book have topped best-seller lists for 25 years.

.. which left me wanting to go "I am NOT a tender-hearted master of the macabre, I am in fact VERY SCARY INDEED," but I suspect I would convince nobody.

Thrilled to see that Odd and the Frost Giants was listed as one of Amazon.com's Best Books of 2009. While I was in China The Graveyard Book was listed as one of the ALA's teens top ten for 2009 as well, an award voted on by over 11,000 teens. (And I made it onto the list with lots of other good people.)

Also, Fragile Things was awarded the French 2010 Les Grands Prix de l’Imaginaire Award for translated short fiction. My thanks to the judges, but mostly to the translator, who in this case is the incredibly talented Michel Pagel. If I ever look good, do well, sell books or am popular in a foreign country, it's because of the translators, and they never get enough thanks or acclaim. And I think I'll post the cover here, because I never have.



I am becoming hooked on http://curiousexpeditions.org.

I was extremely disappointed by the news on the current status of Argleton in Lancashier, especially so since I was hoping to buy a house there. I was going to move to Chako Paul City in Sweden instead, but appear to be the wrong gender and orientation. So probably I'll stay home.

(Hmm. You know, posting that French book-cover reminds me that there are some really beautiful new covers out there right now, especially from Poland and Russia. I know for I have signed them for people. I'll try and get some nice clean examples to put up here.)

And finally, a link to Joanne Leow's blog. It was lovely to see her again, four years on, when I went to Singapore - it was a great interview, and you can watch us chatting about writing, what I'm currently up to, signings, and why I don't write the same sorts of things twice in a row, at the Primetime Morning site: here's part 1 and part 2.

...

Dear Mr. Gaiman,
I was wondering if you would be so kind as to mention an upcoming art auction on your blog. The art auction is “art for hearts”. It is an auction of artwork donated by children’s illustrators such as Korky Paul, Lynne Chapman and An Vrombaut. Most of the artwork is original although there are also some signed digital prints and screen prints too.
All proceeds from the auction will be donated to help fund research by the transplant team at Great Ormond Street Hospital. Transplanted organs do not have the same life expectancy as non-transplanted organs and the transplant team is looking at finding ways to combat this.
Full details of the auction are available to view at
http://art-for-hearts.blogspot.com

It will run on Ebay for a week starting on the 2nd of November. To locate the items people will need to type "art for heart" into the search area and choose "Art" or "books" for items.

Many thanks,

Kristine Stacey


You're welcome. I think this link has everything for sale in the auction: http://shop.ebay.co.uk/scrawldog/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686
 
 
 
 

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